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Dr Andreas Matthias's avatar

Erik, I don't find your thought experiment convincing. The problem is that we tend to assume that those humans on the alien planet will be *humans.* We know that even in prisons and concentration camps, imprisoned physicists have gone on doing physics, composers have composed, poets have written poetry, philosophers have philosophised, and everyone else has enjoyed whatever moments of human contact or natural beauty were available under the conditions of their imprisonment. Animals don't do these things. In order to get a better intuition, you would have to ask whether we'd want to perpetuate a particular group of humans on that alien planet: a group of primitive blokes who hang around on a sofa all day staring into the middle distance, doing absolutely nothing but chewing. They don't talk, they don't listen to music, they have no knowledge of or interest in any kind of culture or human contact. If food comes within reach, they'll chew on it. If not, they'll make some noises and starve. From time to time, they get up and walk over to another sofa nearby, on which women of the same kind spend their days chewing and staring into the middle distance. They'll copulate indifferently and return to their respective sofas. Now please raise your hands again: do *we* want to perpetuate this setup or would it be better if it was all over and done with? Note that we, the observers have to vote (no "hoofs up") because the blokes on the sofa neither care what happens to them nor will bother answering any questions. If you prod them with a stick, they'll move away -- that's all the interaction you're going to get from confronting them. Apart from that, they'll return to chewing and staring all day.

Would we still think that a society like that is valuable and worthy of keeping alive? Not so sure.

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Toni Brayer's avatar

Omg. I’m laughing out loud, especially at eating the evil, bad animals. I’m a cheating pescatarian and I like the crazy way you think. Factory farming and health are the reasons I don’t eat animals. But this is certainly a new way of looking at it. Hahahahahaha

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