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I am a lifelong skeptic, trained in the methods from early analytic traditions all the way up to scientific methodology and even pop literature (which is where I place Sagan's input on the subject). Two years ago, I came into this very topic thinking I would quickly come up to speed and thoroughly discredit it as easily as I had before. Not only was that not the case, but curiously I found the deeper I looked, the harder it was to explain away. This was very unusual for which I have no corollary in my history of critical analysis on these 'fringe' topics.

I have paid attention to your thoughts, and although I identify a similar understanding as myself in relation to the underlying skeptical literature, I think you are reacting very much without looking deeply. I say that no only because of your overall tone (there is a very serious issue at play even if it is not alien in origin) but also, more glaringly, your consistent lack of getting the facts right in the most crucial details.

There is a comment below where you even sweep aside pilot testimony because the video(s) (which at best is ambiguous and inconclusive) do not back the testimony. Assuming you're referring to the "Tic Tac" incident, that was 4 pilots at once observing odd movements. The video was taken by a 5th pilot who was sent out right after those 4 pilots came back. So the accounts are not going to be of the same object. But of course, even if this was from those original 4 pilot's accounts a short video is not tantamount to the whole experience. Also, it has been established that determinations are coming from multi-censor systems, not just a grainy video.

You also have swept aside claims that physicists have gleaned information from the entire data collection. The department that analyzed the videos employed several scientists from various disciplines including physicists.

While I don't think it's fair to view this subject through a binary lens (aliens || nothing important), I also don't think it's fair to assume there is nothing to any of this when you have repeatedly displayed a lack of familiarity.

You certainly can come up with deep criticisms (which I have) but that requires a very careful and thorough reading. Although the idea that this is alien in origin might not be publicly verified in the near future, I doubt your analysis will reflect well. I think this topic will only get bigger and come to a boiling point and as a civilization we will have to change our tune on this topic. Even if it's because we'll all be speaking Chinese. Whatever the case, this is not a good look for skepticism by purported skeptics as much as it's not a good look for anyone else right now.

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THANK YOU

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